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#101617: "ELO rates of unrelated players may decrease when someone exits the game"
#101617: "ELO rates of unrelated players may decrease when someone exits the game"
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Дэталёвае апісанне
• Калі ласка, скапіруйце тэкст памылкі, якую вы бачыце на экране (калі яна ёсць).
boardgamearena.com/table?table=429152889
As in the game above, if there is a difference in ELO rates between players, the rate of an unrelated player will decrease when someone exits the game.
This is clearly unfair and should be corrected.
Due to this specification, players with higher rates will not want to match with players with lower rates.
It reduces the chances of players playing each other.• Калі ласка, растлумачце, што вы хацелі зрабіць, што вы зрабілі і што здарылася
• Якім браўзэрам вы карыстаецеся?
Google Chrome v117
• Калі ласка, скапіруйце тэкст на англійскай замест перакладу на ваш мову. Калі ў вас ёсць скрыншот гэтай памылкі (добрая звычка), вы можаце скарыстацца Imgur.com, каб загрузіць яго і ўставіць сюды спасылку.
boardgamearena.com/table?table=429152889
As in the game above, if there is a difference in ELO rates between players, the rate of an unrelated player will decrease when someone exits the game.
This is clearly unfair and should be corrected.
Due to this specification, players with higher rates will not want to match with players with lower rates.
It reduces the chances of players playing each other.• Дзе можна знайсьці гэты тэкст у сістэме перакладу? Калі так, ці быў ён перакладзены больш за 24 гадзін таму?
• Якім браўзэрам вы карыстаецеся?
Google Chrome v117
• Калі ласка, дакладна і коратка апішыце сваю прапанову, каб зрабіць яе найбольш даступнай для разумення.
boardgamearena.com/table?table=429152889
As in the game above, if there is a difference in ELO rates between players, the rate of an unrelated player will decrease when someone exits the game.
This is clearly unfair and should be corrected.
Due to this specification, players with higher rates will not want to match with players with lower rates.
It reduces the chances of players playing each other.• Якім браўзэрам вы карыстаецеся?
Google Chrome v117
• Што было намалявана на экране, калі вас заблакавала? (Пусты экран? Частка гульнявога стала? Паведамленне пра памылку?)
boardgamearena.com/table?table=429152889
As in the game above, if there is a difference in ELO rates between players, the rate of an unrelated player will decrease when someone exits the game.
This is clearly unfair and should be corrected.
Due to this specification, players with higher rates will not want to match with players with lower rates.
It reduces the chances of players playing each other.• Якім браўзэрам вы карыстаецеся?
Google Chrome v117
• Якая частка правілаў не выкананая ў версіі BGA
boardgamearena.com/table?table=429152889
As in the game above, if there is a difference in ELO rates between players, the rate of an unrelated player will decrease when someone exits the game.
This is clearly unfair and should be corrected.
Due to this specification, players with higher rates will not want to match with players with lower rates.
It reduces the chances of players playing each other.• Ці відаць парушэнне правілаў у паўторы гульні? Калі так, то на яком хаду?
• Якім браўзэрам вы карыстаецеся?
Google Chrome v117
• Якое гульнявое дзеянне вы хацелі зрабіць?
boardgamearena.com/table?table=429152889
As in the game above, if there is a difference in ELO rates between players, the rate of an unrelated player will decrease when someone exits the game.
This is clearly unfair and should be corrected.
Due to this specification, players with higher rates will not want to match with players with lower rates.
It reduces the chances of players playing each other.• Што вы спрабавалі зрабіць, каб выканаць гэтае гульнявое дзеянне?
• Што адбылося, калі вы паспрабавалі зрабіць гэта (паведамленне пра памылку, паведамленне ў радку стану гульні ...)?
• Якім браўзэрам вы карыстаецеся?
Google Chrome v117
• На якім кроку гульні адбылася праблема (якая была інструкцыя ў той момант у гульні)?
boardgamearena.com/table?table=429152889
As in the game above, if there is a difference in ELO rates between players, the rate of an unrelated player will decrease when someone exits the game.
This is clearly unfair and should be corrected.
Due to this specification, players with higher rates will not want to match with players with lower rates.
It reduces the chances of players playing each other.• Што адбылося, калі вы паспрабавалі здзейсніць гульнявое дзеянне (паведамленне пра памылку, паведамленне ў радку стану гульні ...)?
• Якім браўзэрам вы карыстаецеся?
Google Chrome v117
• Калі ласка, апішыце памылку адлюстравання. Калі ў вас ёсць скрыншот гэтай памылкі (добрая звычка), вы можаце скарыстацца Imgur.com, каб загрузіць яго і ўставіць сюды спасылку.
boardgamearena.com/table?table=429152889
As in the game above, if there is a difference in ELO rates between players, the rate of an unrelated player will decrease when someone exits the game.
This is clearly unfair and should be corrected.
Due to this specification, players with higher rates will not want to match with players with lower rates.
It reduces the chances of players playing each other.• Якім браўзэрам вы карыстаецеся?
Google Chrome v117
• Калі ласка, скапіруйце тэкст на англійскай замест перакладу на ваш мову. Калі ў вас ёсць скрыншот гэтай памылкі (добрая звычка), вы можаце скарыстацца Imgur.com, каб загрузіць яго і ўставіць сюды спасылку.
boardgamearena.com/table?table=429152889
As in the game above, if there is a difference in ELO rates between players, the rate of an unrelated player will decrease when someone exits the game.
This is clearly unfair and should be corrected.
Due to this specification, players with higher rates will not want to match with players with lower rates.
It reduces the chances of players playing each other.• Дзе можна знайсьці гэты тэкст у сістэме перакладу? Калі так, ці быў ён перакладзены больш за 24 гадзін таму?
• Якім браўзэрам вы карыстаецеся?
Google Chrome v117
• Калі ласка, дакладна і коратка апішыце сваю прапанову, каб зрабіць яе найбольш даступнай для разумення.
boardgamearena.com/table?table=429152889
As in the game above, if there is a difference in ELO rates between players, the rate of an unrelated player will decrease when someone exits the game.
This is clearly unfair and should be corrected.
Due to this specification, players with higher rates will not want to match with players with lower rates.
It reduces the chances of players playing each other.• Якім браўзэрам вы карыстаецеся?
Google Chrome v117
Гісторыя справаздачы
21. сне 2023 17:04 • kaien032 • Распрацоўшчыкі яшчэ не прааналізавалі гэтую прапанову:
I checked a few replays and this ELO rate specification seems to be a bug that only occurs when someone exits at 100% game progress.
30. сне 2023 11:00 • WallBuilder • Распрацоўшчыкі яшчэ не прааналізавалі гэтую прапанову:
I had this problem in a game of Agricola. I was going to win, another player timed out, and another player made them quick. I lost ELO because I tied with the two players with lower ratings
30. сне 2023 11:01 • WallBuilder • Распрацоўшчыкі яшчэ не прааналізавалі гэтую прапанову:
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26. лют 2024 11:20 • WallBuilder • Распрацоўшчыкі яшчэ не прааналізавалі гэтую прапанову:
This happened again here - another player quit just before the finish of the game, and I lost 9 ELO, even though I was about to win!
Agricola n°469154699
Agricola n°469154699
16. сак 2024 11:13 • Freddy_Choppin • Распрацоўшчыкі яшчэ не прааналізавалі гэтую прапанову:
This looks like the same issue I had with a game of Wingspan: boardgamearena.com/table?table=487704894 yesterday.
A player timed out during his/her last move of the game, was kicked and even therefore first place was shared between the rest of the players including myself. Because other players had lower ELO, I ended up losing points when I otherwise would have won the game and gained ELO.
A player timed out during his/her last move of the game, was kicked and even therefore first place was shared between the rest of the players including myself. Because other players had lower ELO, I ended up losing points when I otherwise would have won the game and gained ELO.
4. кра 2024 17:59 • DanGamesPdx • Распрацоўшчыкі яшчэ не прааналізавалі гэтую прапанову:
I've had this happen several times in space base at 100% completion
22. кра 2024 20:16 • Phoxtrot • Распрацоўшчыкі яшчэ не прааналізавалі гэтую прапанову:
Tangential to this, I have made a suggestion about making the framework more flexible so that specific games can implement specific solutions when someone quits the game.
See boardgamearena.com/bug?id=121841
(Link to discussion thread in the suggestion report)
See boardgamearena.com/bug?id=121841
(Link to discussion thread in the suggestion report)
5. мая 2024 13:27 • KSpooky • Распрацоўшчыкі яшчэ не прааналізавалі гэтую прапанову:
This is really annoying, can you do something about that? During last month it happened 3 times in Terraforming Mars Arena. Loosing player haven't put final greenery and eventually got dropped. My win was considered as a draw and in effect I've lost ELO and Arena points, because enemies had much lower ranking. It is not suppose to work like that. It is simply unfair.
So why not simply skip quiter turns if the game is at 90%+ progression? Or replace it with some dummy AI? Make it to never lost ELO/Arena Ranking on player drop?
So why not simply skip quiter turns if the game is at 90%+ progression? Or replace it with some dummy AI? Make it to never lost ELO/Arena Ranking on player drop?
26. мая 2024 22:01 • Shivaware • Распрацоўшчыкі яшчэ не прааналізавалі гэтую прапанову:
This was a long-standing issue, and a few years ago, they added a lower cap so that none of the remaining players could actually lose Elo, but the remaining player with the lowest Elo would still gain Elo from everyone else. Unfortunately, when they added the power-levelling changes, the lower cap was removed and it is now possible for remaining players to lose Elo again.
The ideal solution would be to just consider it as everyone winning separate 2-player games against the person who left.
Someone suggested that already here: boardgamearena.com/bug?id=109466
The ideal solution would be to just consider it as everyone winning separate 2-player games against the person who left.
Someone suggested that already here: boardgamearena.com/bug?id=109466
1. ліп 2024 10:13 • Shivaware • Распрацоўшчыкі яшчэ не прааналізавалі гэтую прапанову:
Hmm, I wonder if this has been recently addressed.
In this game:
boardgamearena.com/table?table=528318388
I can now see a message in the "Details of ELO calculation" that says "You cannot lose ELO when a player quits the game".
If it's fixed for all games, that is a welcome change!
In this game:
boardgamearena.com/table?table=528318388
I can now see a message in the "Details of ELO calculation" that says "You cannot lose ELO when a player quits the game".
If it's fixed for all games, that is a welcome change!
3. вер 2024 15:02 • BROT42 • Гэта прапанова рэалізавана:
hello :)
thanks for reporting the issue, we noticed there was indeed a bug where if the game was quit at 100% progression (which is unexpected but still possible, although it depends on each specific game implementation, according to how it has been developed), players could lose ELO when the rating update calculation was resulting in a negative delta (for ex when a strong player was tie with a weak player, as a result of game neuteralization). this delta would normally be set min to 0, but on 100% it wasn't happening.
the issue has now been fixed as of 28th aug 2024 (see changelog boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=188266#p188266).
sorry for the troubles and thank you for your patience!
thanks for reporting the issue, we noticed there was indeed a bug where if the game was quit at 100% progression (which is unexpected but still possible, although it depends on each specific game implementation, according to how it has been developed), players could lose ELO when the rating update calculation was resulting in a negative delta (for ex when a strong player was tie with a weak player, as a result of game neuteralization). this delta would normally be set min to 0, but on 100% it wasn't happening.
the issue has now been fixed as of 28th aug 2024 (see changelog boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=188266#p188266).
sorry for the troubles and thank you for your patience!
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